Hello @leodb89,awesome test videos i was scrolling thinking...hmm you can tell us how decent they are but show us...then scrolled bit more lol and theres the video...even i was like hmm not sure about that foam holding it in...but ye test proved me wrong...although one thing im a bit curious about is obviously the person using it would need to fill up a lot more in case the thing is laid on its side and the air bubble causes the coral to be out of water?
Hmm testing, if you need someone to send free coral to im always here ;)Hello @leodb89,
I highly doubt that the coral will remain in air for long. Between splashing and whatnot, it is very likely the frag will remain under water. It should be as good as current methods. However, we are going to do a fair few test runs (shipping frags) before these become available.
Thanks.
In all fairness this is not an original idea. @NiCd saw it somewhere and they are no longer available. We decided to make our own, but with some adjustments, such as making them really strong.& on the eighth day he created.......the frag cell :rolleyes
Looks good.
The frag cells will bring a new way of shipping frags around the country I think. As for the temp issue, no matter what you put a frag in there will always be a temp problem. In winter you will still need a heat pack of some kind, in summer there will need to be another option, like no shipping when 3-4 40deg days straight lol.I'd be interested how the temp holds up with the frag cell material and a post bag as well.
Depends on the frag. There's plenty of things you can move without a heat pack... as they can easily overheat (and potentially kill) in small packages as they can avoid getting too cold. If you put a material thats 40C+ inside an insulating vessel (ie foam box), what happens when the heat radiating from the heat pack fills the entire volume? You expose the contents to rising temps to about 40C, then it slowly drops off depending on the insulating efficiency of the vessel. In a larger box with a lot of water it's going to take a lot longer for the heat inside the vessel to affect the water, and the heat pack will probably cool before it becomes an issue. For a frag you would generally have a very small volume of water which is going to (over)heat a lot faster and risks doing far more harm than good. There's far more logic and looking at weather reports, packing appropriately and making sure it gets where it's going overnight!The frag cells will bring a new way of shipping frags around the country I think. As for the temp issue, no matter what you put a frag in there will always be a temp problem. In winter you will still need a heat pack of some kind, in summer there will need to be another option, like no shipping when 3-4 40deg days straight lol.
Lots of potential to send frags that many reefers would not normally send. :)
I'm pretty sure I read something a while ago about how foam insulates extremely well against 40degree heat during shipping. And with the heat, the packed air insulates really well as well hence why shops pack bags full of air. The cells would travel best inside a foam box unless the material they are made of is insulating.Depends on the frag. There's plenty of things you can move without a heat pack... as they can easily overheat (and potentially kill) in small packages as they can avoid getting too cold. If you put a material thats 40C+ inside an insulating vessel (ie foam box), what happens when the heat radiating from the heat pack fills the entire volume? You expose the contents to rising temps to about 40C, then it slowly drops off depending on the insulating efficiency of the vessel. In a larger box with a lot of water it's going to take a lot longer for the heat inside the vessel to affect the water, and the heat pack will probably cool before it becomes an issue. For a frag you would generally have a very small volume of water which is going to (over)heat a lot faster and risks doing far more harm than good. There's far more logic and looking at weather reports, packing appropriately and making sure it gets where it's going overnight!
If we were the US, where winters involve snow measured in feet, and we experienced constant sub zero temperatures, heatpacks would be necessary for everything!
Still trying to find a decently small and accurate enough data logger to prove this lol.